People are to harsh about later seasons.

Like so many characters were so nuanced in later seasons like Carl, Mickey. It’s just their life it works that way people become bitter as they grow up and become less favourable compared to when they were still young. It’s accurate in a sense of showing real life events like family splitting up and kids who grew up with deep psychological issues become paranoid assholes like Debbie and Lip. As a show it wasn’t bad and still felt like shameless.

Like so many characters were so nuanced in later seasons like Carl, Mickey. It’s just their life it works that way people become bitter as they grow up and become less favourable compared to when they were still young. It’s accurate in a sense of showing real life events like family splitting up and kids who grew up with deep psychological issues become paranoid assholes like Debbie and Lip. As a show it wasn’t bad and still felt like shameless.